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This is where I've seen the dark shadow, and then I'd hear somebody in my ear saying,

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Wake up.

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I looked right at it.

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It almost like it went, I'm here.

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The past few years, they've only had a minor of things, and now it's escalating.

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They believed in hexes and stuff like that.

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That's a scary to remember.

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Oh no.

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Who are you?

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Why are you here?

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Would you make a knocking sound?

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I look for my eye, it looked like there was a solid mass.

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I feel like there's something actually standing behind me.

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Oh god.

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Oh.

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My name is Ryan Buell.

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As a child, I was plagued by the paranormal.

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So in college, I founded a group known as the Paranormal Research Society.

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Now my team and I help those who are haunted like I was.

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This is paranormal state.

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Well, so we're here in New Ringled PA.

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Who scouted the case?

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I researched it.

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You did?

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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So if I want to understand, we have a family here, Erica, Denise, and Troy.

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So why did they contact us?

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In the house, they have basically seen three different spirits.

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There's a little girl who they say is about 10 to 12 years old.

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She runs up and down the stairs and through the hallway.

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There's an elderly woman who they've seen up in the upstairs bedrooms, they say.

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What seems more threatening to them is this black shadow figure.

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The client, Erica, contacted us because in recent weeks, every night when she turns

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off the light to go to bed, the black shadow figure takes a step closer and a step closer

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and a step closer to her bedroom.

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And the family is absolutely terrified of the attic.

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They barricade the door so that nothing can come out of the attic.

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Anything else that's pertinent, no?

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All right, well, let's get ready to go over there.

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Come.

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Hi, guys.

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Hi.

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Nice to meet you.

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Hi, Ryan.

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Nice to meet you.

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This is my team.

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Hi, guys.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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Now, what's the primary reason why you contacted us?

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There's like a dark shadow figure that I've seen it before, like going up and down the

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stairs.

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It was actually like standing right next to me.

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That was way too close for comfort for me.

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And how long have you been having these experiences?

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Since about two weeks after moving into the house.

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So about 10 years, almost 11 years.

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Okay.

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What I'd like to do right now is a tour of the house.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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We've seen somebody standing like in this general area.

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It's a really tall figure.

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Like you can tell, like it's the figure of a man and he's see-through, but like there's

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no like defined features on him.

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The most like we're getting activity at anywhere is hallway.

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This is where I've seen that the dark shadow and I've seen him on the stairs and down here

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in this hallway.

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And just you or someone else?

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My mom did see it moved straight into this doorway when she was laying down on the couch.

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She looked directly at it.

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We've heard and seen a little girl go up the stairwell.

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I would say that she's really fast.

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And as you're going up the stairs, you'll see her up on the second set of stairs and

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running off and then you don't see her after that.

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How old do you think she is?

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I'd say between nine and 12, like somewhere in that range.

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Tell me about the most frightening experience you've had.

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When I was in here, felt like someone put their hands onto the bed and then I'd hear

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somebody in my ear saying, wake up, wake up.

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This is one of the places in the house we don't go in ever.

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This is a smaller room and then our bigger room.

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And then we have our cubby hole.

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And I'm going to take a look in here just for myself if you don't mind.

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Creepy.

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If you treat something with fear, it will remain scary.

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So one thing I'd like for you to think about is for you to pursue going into there and

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facing your fear because that's very important when dealing with the supernatural.

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So when did you start to see these black shadows?

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Six years ago maybe.

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And I'm assuming you saw it directly with your eyes or it was like the side?

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No, I looked right at it.

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Almost like it went, I'm here.

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Have you seen any other apparitions aside from this shadowy force?

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Yeah, seen the little girl and an old lady.

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If I believe what my neighbors say, the elderly lady would have been a lady maybe that died

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in the house.

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Troy, do you have any experiences?

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I sit in the corner there to couch and stuff like that.

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There's like a smell of, I think it's called dirt.

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Like if you were digging out in the yard or something like that.

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I mean I hear creaks and stuff upstairs.

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I mean, I don't know.

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Something makes the creaks so is it just the house or is it something?

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Well that's what we're here to hopefully find out.

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Isn't exactly natural what I feel in here.

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I don't like this house.

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Oh no.

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Wow.

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This is very, very, very, very heavy on my chest.

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This has a very, very heavy feeling.

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The worst room seems to be the kitchen in that hallway that leads to the first stairs

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that we came up.

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Okay.

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How old do you think this energy is?

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Who do you think it is or who do you think it belongs to?

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Maybe it is a family member.

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Are you not sure if it's current or previous?

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No I'm not.

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The past few years they've only had a minor of things and now just the past couple of

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months they claim that.

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It's escalating.

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Are they seeing darkness or are they seeing ghosts?

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Both.

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They're seeing both.

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The dark spirit is inhuman.

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If there are spirits here it seems their motivation is still unclear.

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I'm going to use tonight's dead time to try and provoke them into making an appearance

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for PRS.

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I will be in the bedroom.

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Sergei will be in the attic and Elphi will be in the crawl space.

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Ryan and Samantha here and we're going to go ahead and start dead time.

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It is 2.31.56 a.m.

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Commencing dead time.

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There's anyone here who wants to speak with us more than welcome to.

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The house is empty except for my team.

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I want you to step closer and give me a sign that you are here.

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Is there anybody here with me right now?

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To hell.

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That's interesting.

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I thought I just saw a flash of light.

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In there.

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Yeah.

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Hey Mike.

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Yeah, right.

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I just parked this time down because I thought I saw a flash in the pink room.

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Hey Ryan.

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Yeah.

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This bell right here?

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Yep.

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Is it shaking?

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Did you see this?

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No.

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Wouldn't the bell have stopped by now if it was just you walking?

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Is there anything here where you make a knocking sound?

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Let me know your present.

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I don't know if my eyes are playing tricks on me or what.

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I think I'm seeing a shadowy thing.

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Bottom line is I do see shadows.

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Like for example I looked over here where the camera is.

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I look where my eye looked like there was a solid mass.

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Would you like to make a noise?

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Let me know you're here.

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Where's the shadow figure?

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Where's the tall man?

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I really like to talk to you.

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Oh god.

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What's up?

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What's the matter?

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Wow.

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I thought I saw something for a second.

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If you're in here shadow figure, I want you to show yourself.

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Are you not strong enough?

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I just smelled something very funky.

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It just came over me.

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It's very strange.

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I don't know if I'm in here.

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I don't know if I'm in here.

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I don't know if I'm in here.

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It just came over me.

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It's very strange.

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Did anyone have any experiences last night?

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I don't know.

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I could see how they can see shadows from the corners of their eyes.

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Every time I looked around I did think something was there watching.

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On the second floor we would turn a corner from the master bedroom

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and look into Erica's bedroom and we would think we see a shadow figure there.

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And a few times we both kind of jumped.

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When I was sitting in the master bedroom and Sam was by the door,

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I saw just as they described, it's pitch black dark, but there was something darker there.

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The client spoke to a neighbor.

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The neighbor told them an old lady died in the house.

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We need to hear from this person.

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You've been living here since the 1950s.

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Do you know the previous owners to the house?

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Yeah.

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Do you know of anyone ever saying anything paranormal has gone on in the home?

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They believed in hexes and stuff like that.

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Do you know anything about a little girl dying in the house?

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Not that I know of it at any time, no.

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But Al's first wife, she died, then he married another lady.

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They lived on the big side of the house and then they had two rooms at the end,

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Olive and her husband.

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Did Olive die in the home as well?

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Yes, she did.

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Screaming and hollering.

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Do you know what she was screaming about?

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Now she was hollering, take the chains off of me and stuff.

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But that's so scary to remember.

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I normally come home at lunch every day except Friday,

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so I did my normal thing, came home, made something quick on the stove,

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and I heard something upstairs.

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What did you hear?

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It wasn't really a walk, and to me it almost sounded like maybe something fell.

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What time would you say this is?

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It would have been between 1205 and 120.

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What do you think it was?

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No idea.

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And you think it was coming from up in the...

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It was definitely in the blue room, it was right above it.

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Blue room.

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We have recorders in every room, so I'm assuming you reacted to,

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maybe looked up or something on the camera?

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I did.

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Okay, that would be easy for us to find, so I'll take a look.

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Thank you guys.

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Yup.

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I've asked Sergei to go over our surveillance footage to see if he can identify the noise Troy heard.

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Having cameras and microphones strategically placed around the house

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gives us the ability to verify or dismiss his claim.

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I tried to find it.

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You didn't even see him react?

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I saw him react.

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He was walking out the door, he looked up, and then he kind of walked away.

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You're saying you didn't hear anything?

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Sounds like footsteps, or somebody walking up the stairs, there's also a truck.

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Alright, go ahead.

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That's supposed to be footsteps.

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In the background.

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That sounds like the truck.

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Yeah, I mean the bottom line is we didn't capture anything.

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Well, let's get ready for dead time.

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I feel it's very important for this family to stand up to whatever it is they feel is haunting them.

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So for tonight's dead time, I want Erika and her mom to take the first step in confronting their fears.

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Go ahead and commence dead time.

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12.18.

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Commencing dead time.

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The more involved you are, the better.

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So ask questions, you can say whatever you want to say.

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Who are you?

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Why are you here?

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Why do you come around us?

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I'd like you to leave.

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Leave my family alone.

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We're here to talk to whoever's here, if there is anybody here.

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You don't need to be shy, do we honestly look like people who will hurt you?

261
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Is there a reason why you chose to stay here?

262
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Is it your home?

263
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It's very crucial for you to try to talk to us right now.

264
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This is your chance to pull the veil back, to connect with your family.

265
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Your chance to pull the veil back, to connect to our world.

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If you are here, move something, make a noise.

267
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You can come over close to me, you can touch my arm, touch my back, you've done it before.

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If you're here, please do something.

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Talk to me, please.

270
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Is there something you want?

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We're going to go up into the attic.

272
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Go ahead, Erica.

273
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Do you feel like there's something here with us?

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I feel like there's something actually standing behind me and just staring at me.

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The biggest thing that you can do is to not give it fear, because fear really does give it power.

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We're going into the crawl space.

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Erica, would you mind braving it with me?

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Do you feel anything?

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The same feeling I've always gotten, like somebody's watching me.

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Behind you?

281
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Yeah.

282
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If there's anyone here in this crawl space, could you please make a noise?

283
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Can you show yourself?

284
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My arm is getting really hot.

285
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Hot?

286
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Yeah.

287
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Okay, this is your cold arm?

288
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Yeah.

289
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Let me feel the other one.

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Now your left arm is colder than your right arm.

291
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Easily.

292
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My arm is getting really hot.

293
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Okay, this is your cold arm?

294
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Yeah.

295
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Let me feel the other one.

296
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Now your left arm is colder than your right arm.

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Easily.

298
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It's like getting warm on this leg.

299
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It's almost like rubbing it.

300
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You know, I get that friction, that heat.

301
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That's what it feels like.

302
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Whoa, that's really interesting.

303
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I've been going head out.

304
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It would be okay if I just sat right here just for a little bit.

305
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I'm in here to show you I'm not afraid of you.

306
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If you were somebody that was here before, this was your house at 1.2.

307
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And I don't mind you being here.

308
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I just don't want you to be feeling the need to intimidate me all the time.

309
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If you want to stay, you can stay.

310
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Just stop scaring anybody in my family and me.

311
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I just don't want to be afraid of you anymore.

312
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And I shouldn't have to be afraid of you.

313
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Awesome.

314
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Let's go ahead and end Dead Time.

315
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109, ending Dead Time.

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If we take a look at the entire case holistically,

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they claim they see an apparition of a girl and old lady

318
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and then some sort of shadow figure.

319
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Yeah.

320
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And that they hear knocking sounds,

321
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they hear footsteps.

322
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Having these experiences nevertheless can be scary.

323
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It's not scary when we've seen everything,

324
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but that's enough to want someone to come in here

325
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and get rid of that thing because it's scary.

326
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But they're not being scratched,

327
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they're not being poked or prodden,

328
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they're not seeing objects move or levitate.

329
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They're seeing an apparition every once in a while,

330
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and they're seeing a dark shadowy figure.

331
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You know, the upstairs being just bare walls.

332
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It's closed in almost fearful.

333
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Like if someone just walked into this home

334
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and sat here for a day, it would be really creepy.

335
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They could definitely cut down their fear of the attic

336
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by cleaning everything out, you know,

337
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kind of bringing it into the home rather than putting things

338
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in front of the door and completely separating it off.

339
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So if they cleared out all that junk from the attic,

340
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like made it their own, then that might help to dissuade

341
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that creepy feeling that they all have in the attic.

342
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There's a lot of things they do here

343
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that show that they are essentially hostage to fear.

344
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And I think that is the more important thing.

345
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To deal with right now.

346
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Some of the biggest claims we've heard y'all talk about

347
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are seeing apparitions.

348
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You know, there's not something going out to attack you,

349
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which is a good thing, you know.

350
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You don't want the other stuff.

351
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Where the scratch marks and the claw marks

352
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and the growlings and things like that.

353
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Now, doing historical research on the property,

354
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we found that this house has had several deaths.

355
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We can't find any indication of a little girl dying

356
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in the house.

357
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But ultimately what I think is happening

358
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is you just have an old house with a lot of history

359
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and it may come with some ghosts.

360
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I don't necessarily believe they're harmful

361
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because they haven't done anything harmful

362
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,080
over all these years.

363
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,080
The bigger issue here I think is the fear.

364
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The attic is the symbolic place of it's dark,

365
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we don't go there, we don't have anything to do with it.

366
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You know, last night, Erica, when you went in there

367
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and you spoke, I think that was very brave.

368
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I think it was a good start.

369
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,080
Because if these ghosts aren't harmful,

370
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they don't want to scare you either.

371
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So try to keep a level head,

372
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try to address the fear.

373
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And if this dark shadowy figure persists,

374
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or if anything gets worse,

375
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you know, please let us know.

376
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,080
Okay.

377
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Anything you want to bring up about the investigation

378
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,080
or how you guys feel?

379
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A little, like, relieved, like,

380
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that there is history behind it and

381
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,080
there could be an explanation.

382
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Like, if there was deaths, maybe that's who they are.

383
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,080
And I'm willing to live with them,

384
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as long as nothing, like, I'm emotional

385
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because I'm a happy kind of thing.

386
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,080
And that, I can understand.

387
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,080
Okay.

388
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,080
Well, that's good.

389
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,080
So thank you guys very much.

390
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Thank you.

391
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Take care, Erica.

392
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Though our investigation did not turn up any evidence

393
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,080
of the paranormal, I feel confident that we are leaving

394
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,080
this family in a better position to handle their fears.

395
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080
If there are spirits here,

396
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I firmly believe they mean no harm

397
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,080
and the family can go on with their lives

398
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without any further concern.